15>50 vs 20<50 - Guild Wars Forums

Poqow · Jun 14, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Which one does people prefer more? Which one is more valuable in terms of trading? I notice that 15>50's are way more and then some guy tells me 20<50 is way more valuable.... I got so confused for some reason.

Opeth11 · Jun 14, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

15>50.

How often would you be at lower than 50% health and still be fighting?

Maybe 20>50 is rarer, but the demand for the item is very low, therefore much cheaper.

Lasareth · Jun 14, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Look at it from the monk's point of view. Whenever someone on your team is below 50% hp, your reaction is to heal. So as a warrior with a monk covering your back, you won't really have that much time below 50. Therefore, 15>50 is more desirable and more valuable.

Don Zardeone · Jun 14, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Yeah most average to good monks will wait until your hp is at 50-70%. Then they'll slap a heal on you for high energy efficiency.

Sometimes your hp will go below 50% and you'll be wondering what the monk is doing. Don't yell HEAL or anything, just wait a split second and watch your health jump back to max.

Word of healing, a popular PvE healing monk skill will heal for a shitload of hp if the target you're healing has less than 50% hp.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Word_of_Healing

So it's usually very unlikely to have less than 50% hp and to STAY at less than 50% hp without getting killed or getting healed back to above 50%

However, someone somewhere probably figured something out...

Yanman.be · Jun 14, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Also, you can better control yourself having >50, than having <50...well, because...it's harder to lose health on demand ( except infuse, saccing, vampiric weapons..harder indeed ^^ )

Thus ==> 15>50

Poqow · Jun 14, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

I thought so... I was sitting here going like wtf was that guy talking about saying a 20<50 is worth 100k... Geez im stupid

thesecondrei · Jun 14, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

How about 15>50 vs 15/-5 energy? This is assuming the warrior uses an axe with shock or bulls strike.

Fyre Brand · Jun 15, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

There was a long thread on this a while ago and this one group of people thought you should always carry both. I jumped on that band wagon becuase it has a certian logic to it. In practice however it's like the posters above mentioned. The typical scenerio isn't to spend a bunch of time at <50% health. Hopefully the healer will be there and pump you back up.

Since then I've dumped my two 20<50. Now I have alternate weapons but mostly there are different mods rather than different inherent damage bonuses. I always have one or two vamp weapons, a zealous weapon and an elemental weapon as a switch out to stop the degen.

If you have enough weapon slots you can always keep it in reserve for thte rainy day backup.

Runner Of Fate · Jun 15, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Well in somecases like the "Solo Fissure Spider Tank" you almost NEVER have +50% hp, so in this case the 20% under 50% ownz

Malice Black · Jun 15, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

15/-5 is useful for adren warriors as you are getting nearly unlimited 15% dmg since adren wars dont need alot of energy the -5 isnt a great loss

15^50 has and always will be the most sought after conditional dmg mod

Song Rui · Jun 15, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

i like this one lolx

furious dagger tang.

i kill so many mob with it CRASH BOOM

AND I PWN ABUV POSTERS HEAD FOR ANUTHA 500GOLD LAWL

Malice Black · Jun 15, 2006, 11:23 AM // 11:23

rui - you stopped speaking english these days..?

Tingi · Jun 15, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

i like this one lolx

furious dagger tang.

i kill so many mob with it CRASH BOOM

AND I PWN ABUV POSTERS HEAD FOR ANUTHA 500GOLD LAWL

Can you not speak English? I didn't understand a work you said...and what is "lawl"? it's lol - laugh out loud.

Song Rui · Jun 15, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tan Blademaster

Can you not speak English? I didn't understand a work you said...and what is "lawl"? it's lol - laugh out loud.

QUIET NON BELIFER. UR KIND IS SOON TO BE REMOVED FROM DA WERLD.

and lawl is a variation of lol.

AlbinoChocobo · Jun 15, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

It's modern poetry. It won't be understood in our lifetime.

Song Rui · Jun 15, 2006, 11:51 AM // 11:51

I'm...not allowed to speak leet?

Jun 14, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57	#1
Poqow Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	15>50 vs 20<50 Which one does people prefer more? Which one is more valuable in terms of trading? I notice that 15>50's are way more and then some guy tells me 20<50 is way more valuable.... I got so confused for some reason.

Jun 14, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01	#2
Opeth11 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet] Profession: Mo/Me	15>50. How often would you be at lower than 50% health and still be fighting? Maybe 20>50 is rarer, but the demand for the item is very low, therefore much cheaper.

Jun 14, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38	#3
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Look at it from the monk's point of view. Whenever someone on your team is below 50% hp, your reaction is to heal. So as a warrior with a monk covering your back, you won't really have that much time below 50. Therefore, 15>50 is more desirable and more valuable.

Jun 14, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19	#4
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	Yeah most average to good monks will wait until your hp is at 50-70%. Then they'll slap a heal on you for high energy efficiency. Sometimes your hp will go below 50% and you'll be wondering what the monk is doing. Don't yell HEAL or anything, just wait a split second and watch your health jump back to max. Word of healing, a popular PvE healing monk skill will heal for a shitload of hp if the target you're healing has less than 50% hp. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Word_of_Healing So it's usually very unlikely to have less than 50% hp and to STAY at less than 50% hp without getting killed or getting healed back to above 50% However, someone somewhere probably figured something out...

Jun 14, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21	#5
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Also, you can better control yourself having >50, than having <50...well, because...it's harder to lose health on demand ( except infuse, saccing, vampiric weapons..harder indeed ^^ ) Thus ==> 15>50

Jun 14, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26	#6
Poqow Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	I thought so... I was sitting here going like wtf was that guy talking about saying a 20<50 is worth 100k... Geez im stupid

Jun 14, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#7
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	How about 15>50 vs 15/-5 energy? This is assuming the warrior uses an axe with shock or bulls strike.

Jun 15, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18	#8
Fyre Brand Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Shadowlight Order [SoR]	There was a long thread on this a while ago and this one group of people thought you should always carry both. I jumped on that band wagon becuase it has a certian logic to it. In practice however it's like the posters above mentioned. The typical scenerio isn't to spend a bunch of time at <50% health. Hopefully the healer will be there and pump you back up. Since then I've dumped my two 20<50. Now I have alternate weapons but mostly there are different mods rather than different inherent damage bonuses. I always have one or two vamp weapons, a zealous weapon and an elemental weapon as a switch out to stop the degen. If you have enough weapon slots you can always keep it in reserve for thte rainy day backup.

Jun 15, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37	#9
Runner Of Fate Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brookings,SD,USA Guild: Guild Of Pain Profession: Mo/	Well in somecases like the "Solo Fissure Spider Tank" you almost NEVER have +50% hp, so in this case the 20% under 50% ownz

Jun 15, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16	#10
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	15/-5 is useful for adren warriors as you are getting nearly unlimited 15% dmg since adren wars dont need alot of energy the -5 isnt a great loss 15^50 has and always will be the most sought after conditional dmg mod

Jun 15, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22	#11
Song Rui Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: We are all pretty [ugly] Profession: W/	i like this one lolx furious dagger tang. i kill so many mob with it CRASH BOOM AND I PWN ABUV POSTERS HEAD FOR ANUTHA 500GOLD LAWL

Jun 15, 2006, 11:23 AM // 11:23	#12
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	rui - you stopped speaking english these days..?

Jun 15, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39	#15
AlbinoChocobo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	It's modern poetry. It won't be understood in our lifetime.

Jun 15, 2006, 11:51 AM // 11:51	#16
Song Rui Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: We are all pretty [ugly] Profession: W/	I'm...not allowed to speak leet?